Feb 132013
 

I recently met up with an old friend who has since moved down to the Carolinas for work. He asserted that Pitt would have a tough time in the ACC as compared to the Big East. I’ll agree that ACC football will be tougher than Big East football. But where I part ways with my esteemed colleague is in Pitt basketball’s ability to compete.

While Pitt doesn’t have the same long history as Duke or UNC, outside of those two behemoths, who are Pitt fans to fear? To the Wikipedia Cave!!!

Since the ACC expanded after the 2004-2005 season, no team from that conference has advanced past the Sweet Sixteen except UNC and Duke. NONE.

Bids  School  Last Bid  Last Win  Last Sweet 16  Last Elite 8  Last Final 4  Last Title Game Last Title
43 UNC 2012 2012 2012 2012 2009 2009 2009
36 Duke  2012 2011 2011 2010 2010 2010 2010
24 Maryland  2010 2010 2003 2002 2002 2002 2002
23 NC State 2012 2012 2012 1986 1983 1983 1983
22 Wake Forest  2010 2010 2004 1996 1962
18 BC 2009 2007 2006 1994
17 Virginia  2012 2007 1995 1995 1984
16 Georgia Tech  2010 2010 2004 2004 2004 2004
16 Florida State  2012 2012 2011 1993 1972 1972
11 Clemson  2011 2011 1997 1980
8 Virginia Tech  2007 2007 1967 1967
6 Miami (FL)  2008 2008 2000

In that same time span, 6 Big East schools have at least made the Elite Eight, with 4 advancing to the Final Four.

Pitt’s 23 all-time bids ranks 10th in the current Big East (11th if you include former member WVU). In the present-day ACC, Pitt would be tied for fourth.

Bids  School  Last Bid  Last Win  Last Sweet 16  Last Elite 8  Last Final 4  Last Title Game Last Title
38 Louisville  2012 2012 2012 2012 2012 1986 1986
35 Syracuse  2012 2012 2012 2012 2003 2003 2003
32 Villanova  2011 2010 2009 2009 2009 1985 1985
32 Notre Dame  2012 2011 2003 1979 1978
31 Connecticut  2012 2011 2011 2011 2011 2011 2011
30 Marquette  2012 2012 2012 2003 2003 1977 1977
28 St. John’s  2011 2000 1999 1999 1985 1952
28 Georgetown  2012 2012 2007 2007 2007 1985 1984
26 Cincinnati  2012 2012 2012 1996 1992 1963 1962
23 Pittsburgh  2011 2011 2009 2009 1941
22 DePaul  2004 2004 1987 1979 1979
15 Providence  2004 1997 1997 1997 1987
9 Seton Hall  2006 2004 2000 1991 1989 1989
6 Rutgers  1991 1983 1979 1976 1976
3 South Florida  2012 2012

After the next round of expansion, Pitt’s 23 bids will be tied for 7th in the new-look ACC, such is the strength of the three Big East teams being added to the roster.

Bids School Last Bid Last Win Last Sweet 16 Last Elite 8 Last Final 4 Last Title Game Last Title
43 UNC 2012 2012 2012 2012 2009 2009 2009
38 Louisville 2012 2012 2012 2012 2012 1986 1986
36 Duke 2012 2011 2011 2010 2010 2010 2010
35 Syracuse 2012 2012 2012 2012 2003 2003 2003
32 Notre Dame 2012 2011 2003 1979 1978
23 NC State 2012 2012 2012 1986 1983 1983 1983
23 Pittsburgh 2011 2011 2009 2009 1941
22 Wake Forest 2010 2010 2004 1996 1962
18 BC 2009 2007 2006 1994
17 Virginia 2012 2007 1995 1995 1984
16 Georgia Tech 2010 2010 2004 2004 2004 2004
16 Florida State 2012 2012 2011 1993 1972 1972
11 Clemson 2011 2011 1997 1980
8 Virginia Tech 2007 2007 1967 1967
6 Miami (FL) 2008 2008 2000

Everyone knows the elephant in the room for Pitt basketball over the past decade+ of success – reaching the Final Four. I’m really looking forward to the new ACC as it will undoubtedly be the best basketball conference in the land after the decimation of the Big East (momentofsilenceohwearedonealready) and the Big Ten diluting its basketball brand by adding Rutgers.

But seriously, outside of Duke and UNC, who else should truly concern me? NC State is respectable but maybe (probably not) on the level of even Georgetown. Between the two of Miami and FSU, you usually find one surprise which might equate to a Marquette or Cincinnati. Virginia is doing well this season but again, probably no greater than Notre Dame year-in, year-out. Of the Big East additions, Pitt has a 9-3 record recently over Syracuse and has gone 4-4 vs Louisville. Notre Dame is a tougher out for us but we still usually finish above them in the standings.

While Pitt is still searching for that NCAA Tournament breakthrough, I have every confidence they’ll be able to compete at the highest levels of the ACC. In most years, I think we’ll be able to slot in to the Top 5 or 6 of the new ACC.

Source: Wikipedia.org

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