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	<description>Exploring Pursuits of a Not-So Trivial Nature... and why Larry would&#039;ve caught that</description>
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		<title>Comment on The Cabrera Factor by David Volek, Twenty Years Later - The Confluence at Jollybengali.net</title>
		<link>http://www.jollybengali.net/theconfluence/2011/02/07/the-cabrera-factor/comment-page-1/#comment-215</link>
		<dc:creator>David Volek, Twenty Years Later - The Confluence at Jollybengali.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 17:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] one will likely ever supplant Francisco Cabrera [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Standards of Expectation by David Volek, Twenty Years Later - The Confluence at Jollybengali.net</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Volek, Twenty Years Later - The Confluence at Jollybengali.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 17:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] as high as Scottie Reynolds. But higher than Alfred Pupunu. Maybe in the same vein as Mardy Gilyard or Larry Brown (the Cowboys [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] as high as Scottie Reynolds. But higher than Alfred Pupunu. Maybe in the same vein as Mardy Gilyard or Larry Brown (the Cowboys [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on ND and PSU &gt; WVU by Projecting out Pitt football schedules - The Confluence at Jollybengali.net</title>
		<link>http://www.jollybengali.net/theconfluence/2012/12/12/nd-and-psu-wvu/comment-page-1/#comment-200</link>
		<dc:creator>Projecting out Pitt football schedules - The Confluence at Jollybengali.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 19:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Posts: ND and PSU &gt; WVU  Sources: Cardiac Hill &#8211; Pitt&#8217;s 2013 opponents, [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Class of 2004 QB&#8217;s &gt; Class of 1983 QB&#8217;s by Maher S. Hoque</title>
		<link>http://www.jollybengali.net/theconfluence/2012/11/01/2004-qbs-1983-qbs/comment-page-1/#comment-177</link>
		<dc:creator>Maher S. Hoque</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2012 02:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re right that the Superbowl metric is a bit unfair. In fact, Terrell Davis is the very example I use when disagreeing with those who rank Elway ahead of Marino. Nor would I put Roethlisberger ahead of Marino because he&#039;s got 2 Superbowl wins. So that&#039;s why I put in yardage at the end, though it wasn&#039;t the main thrust of my argument. 

It would probably instructive to analyse the play of these QB&#039;s within their Superbowl appearances so as to mitigate against a bad defensive performace. Perhaps another day.

But because QB&#039;s get both too much or too little credit for titles in such a team-oriented sport, I&#039;m ultimately ok with using it as a significant barometer in determining a QB&#039;s legacy, and thus a QB draft class&#039; legacy. (2004 &gt; 1983, Montana &gt; Marino).

Only 3 or 4 teams in the past 30 years have won a Superbowl without an elite-level QB. Those Redskins teams were one example and remember that Phil Simms was considered elite level. So if you don&#039;t have ridiculous stats like Marino did, you need a Superbowl or two.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right that the Superbowl metric is a bit unfair. In fact, Terrell Davis is the very example I use when disagreeing with those who rank Elway ahead of Marino. Nor would I put Roethlisberger ahead of Marino because he&#8217;s got 2 Superbowl wins. So that&#8217;s why I put in yardage at the end, though it wasn&#8217;t the main thrust of my argument. </p>
<p>It would probably instructive to analyse the play of these QB&#8217;s within their Superbowl appearances so as to mitigate against a bad defensive performace. Perhaps another day.</p>
<p>But because QB&#8217;s get both too much or too little credit for titles in such a team-oriented sport, I&#8217;m ultimately ok with using it as a significant barometer in determining a QB&#8217;s legacy, and thus a QB draft class&#8217; legacy. (2004 > 1983, Montana > Marino).</p>
<p>Only 3 or 4 teams in the past 30 years have won a Superbowl without an elite-level QB. Those Redskins teams were one example and remember that Phil Simms was considered elite level. So if you don&#8217;t have ridiculous stats like Marino did, you need a Superbowl or two.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Class of 2004 QB&#8217;s &gt; Class of 1983 QB&#8217;s by pxk161</title>
		<link>http://www.jollybengali.net/theconfluence/2012/11/01/2004-qbs-1983-qbs/comment-page-1/#comment-176</link>
		<dc:creator>pxk161</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2012 17:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now I may be on dangerous grounds disagreeing with you on sports...but methinks the Super Bowl record isn&#039;t a fair metric. Football, more than a lot of other sports (although futbol is similar), is truly a team game. Individuals can&#039;t dominate as much as they can in, say, hockey or basketball. Sure they played on &quot;fine teams.&quot; But there&#039;s a difference between a &quot;fine team&quot; and one good enough to win a Super Bowl.

Other than Super Bowl XXV, it seems pretty clear that the Bills&#039; other opponents were much better than them. And if that infamous field goal against the Giants was just a few inches to the right, we would be having a different conversation right now.

And the same thing with Elway. Until the last two years when he had Terrell Davis et al., I don&#039;t see how the Broncos were in the same league as the either the Redskins or the Giants (getting crushed by both). 

I distinctly remember when I first came to this country (1993), there were semi-serious talks of having the Super Bowl between two NFC teams because the AFC was just terrible. No superstar quarterback can compensate for that.

Now I&#039;m not saying you&#039;re necessarily wrong. The 2004 class may end up being better. I just think the Super Bowl metric isn&#039;t the best one to use here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now I may be on dangerous grounds disagreeing with you on sports&#8230;but methinks the Super Bowl record isn&#8217;t a fair metric. Football, more than a lot of other sports (although futbol is similar), is truly a team game. Individuals can&#8217;t dominate as much as they can in, say, hockey or basketball. Sure they played on &#8220;fine teams.&#8221; But there&#8217;s a difference between a &#8220;fine team&#8221; and one good enough to win a Super Bowl.</p>
<p>Other than Super Bowl XXV, it seems pretty clear that the Bills&#8217; other opponents were much better than them. And if that infamous field goal against the Giants was just a few inches to the right, we would be having a different conversation right now.</p>
<p>And the same thing with Elway. Until the last two years when he had Terrell Davis et al., I don&#8217;t see how the Broncos were in the same league as the either the Redskins or the Giants (getting crushed by both). </p>
<p>I distinctly remember when I first came to this country (1993), there were semi-serious talks of having the Super Bowl between two NFC teams because the AFC was just terrible. No superstar quarterback can compensate for that.</p>
<p>Now I&#8217;m not saying you&#8217;re necessarily wrong. The 2004 class may end up being better. I just think the Super Bowl metric isn&#8217;t the best one to use here.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hey Pennstate, stop trying to make everyone linebackers! by Maher S. Hoque</title>
		<link>http://www.jollybengali.net/theconfluence/2012/07/19/hey-pennstate-stop-trying-to-make-everyone-linebackers/comment-page-1/#comment-155</link>
		<dc:creator>Maher S. Hoque</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2012 09:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s not terribly uncommon for players to switch positions at the behest of their coach. It&#039;s usually within a contiumm, of course - RB, WR, LB, DB, QB... the most athletic positions, so to speak. But at PSU, the elite players always seem to have been funneled to LB.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not terribly uncommon for players to switch positions at the behest of their coach. It&#8217;s usually within a contiumm, of course &#8211; RB, WR, LB, DB, QB&#8230; the most athletic positions, so to speak. But at PSU, the elite players always seem to have been funneled to LB.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hey Pennstate, stop trying to make everyone linebackers! by pxk161</title>
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		<dc:creator>pxk161</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2012 18:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great post. Didn&#039;t know those facts, or that Paterno actively pushed people into roles they maybe didn&#039;t want. But then again, apparently there&#039;s a lot I didn&#039;t know about Paterno.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. Didn&#8217;t know those facts, or that Paterno actively pushed people into roles they maybe didn&#8217;t want. But then again, apparently there&#8217;s a lot I didn&#8217;t know about Paterno.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is Ice Hockey the &#8220;Best&#8221; Sport? by Maher S. Hoque</title>
		<link>http://www.jollybengali.net/theconfluence/2012/04/25/is-ice-hockey-the-best-sport/comment-page-1/#comment-153</link>
		<dc:creator>Maher S. Hoque</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[England sux at futbol.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>England sux at futbol.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is Ice Hockey the &#8220;Best&#8221; Sport? by Asif H.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Asif H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 13:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the best team sport can be assessed on the international level. Best athletes don&#039;t always mean the best team. It&#039;s usually the team that can combine their best players into 1 chemistry building machine. i.e. Argentina, England in futbol, USA in basketball.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the best team sport can be assessed on the international level. Best athletes don&#8217;t always mean the best team. It&#8217;s usually the team that can combine their best players into 1 chemistry building machine. i.e. Argentina, England in futbol, USA in basketball.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is Ice Hockey the &#8220;Best&#8221; Sport? by Crosby: &#039;I do not like any guy&#039; on the Flyers - new google trends : new google trends</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crosby: &#039;I do not like any guy&#039; on the Flyers - new google trends : new google trends</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 11:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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